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mre · Senior Member

News #2: AZ Immigration Law

Sarah Labelle · Veteran Member

I don't think you should be able to just tell someone to prove that they are a citizen. Not everyone has a form of identification on them. Also, some people have a fake I.D. It is illogical to use police resources to try to find illegal immigrants (which is a hard task with little proof) that should be used to stop crimes. However if a person commits a crime then the police shouyld be able to check the status of their citizenship.

-- Edited by Sarah Labelle on Tuesday 30th of March 2010 10:10:39 AM

Anthony · Veteran Member

I don’t think that people should go and prove there a citizen of the United State. People don’t always has a form of I’d with them just to prove there a citizens. People could just go and show a fake I’d to the police. It is pretty Dum to arrest the immigrant, give them a chance to become a citizen. They do jobs that ordinary American people won’t do.

Heling is · Veteran Member

I feel as if the first article dictated a bad idea and the second article simply no idea at all (just like liberals vs. conservatives). Like Napolitano, I think that a "virtual fence" would do little to solve the problem as there are other ways for illegal immigrants to infiltrate the state. However, like Brewer, I also believe that the rising number of illegal immigrants is a frightening revelation that should be addressed, although perhaps not in such a radical way.

Racial profiling has its benefits, but it would require enormous efforts to check the millions of people living in Arizona. Actually, all of the 'solutions' that they proposed seem impractical. It upsets me that they spend so much time and effort debating on the logistics of an awful idea, a 'bridge to no where' if you will. :D

jordan coe · Veteran Member

i agree with the bill because the people are here ileagly and we dont know if they were murders or drug runners and if they come here leagly its fine but ileagly it isnt u think other country would like americans comining in there ilegaly this problem has to be fixed

Vi · Veteran Member

No, I do not think that the state should be able to take people and make them show their ID just because they think they are immigrants because of the privacy issue. They have rights and we never know if the person is actually an immigrant or not. The police will obviously use stereotypes against people and pull them off the streets just based off looks. That kind of situation is not fair at all and shouldn't be approved. Racism and stereotypes need to be decreased and this would just contribute to it.

Nay · Veteran Member

my thoughts on this issue that they have no right be able to go up to anyone that hasnt commited a crime. racial profiling is a horrible thing that plagues america today since this country has very sick obession with illgeal immigration. but that just my thoughts on this

Glorieeeee · Member

Honestly, i don't think it would be fair to stop someone and check for an ID, assuming they were an immigrant. What if that person isn't? If i were in there shoes, i would take that offensive because that is racial profiling.

Zachary W · Veteran Member

I understand the states desire to pass a law in an attempt to control their illegal immigration population and ‘problem’ but I don’t think the wording or mandates for the bill will actually help solve anything. Charging illegal immigrants with trespassing will almost definitely cause many legal and morality problems and disputes. If they are trespassing on America and its homes does that also give American citizens the right to use force to protect their “home” Arizona? Even if the measures prove to be somehow effective the state could very well end up facing profiling lawsuits and complaints from civil liberty groups due to overzealous officers. While I agree something must be done and steps must be taken to punish people employing and smuggling illegal workers I don’t think this bill will effectively solve the problem.

R_Santos · Member

I feel like this could be a very dangerous and risky bill. It goes way past just the issue of trespassing. If it were to pass I feel it would give police enforcers too much power. For example, “it also includes language which would require police to check the immigration status of everyone with whom they come into official contact.” This is a breach of privacy rights that people have in the country. Also I think this bill would increase racial profiling in the country tremendously and gives other countries the image of America being a discriminatory country. I agree with reducing illegal immigrants in the country but it has to be a legal and cautious thing. The government can’t just go and take away people’s privacy. Also what would be the “reasonable suspicion” that someone is an illegal immigrant? Does that mean if I were to happen to appear like an illegal immigrant that I would be arrested and charged with trespassing? There must be a better way to pinpoint illegal immigrants without profiling or breaching people’s rights.

kelsayexo · Veteran Member

I dont believe they should have the right to pull someone and " check their ID ". We have freedom and rights in this country. It never said you cant be free in a country in which your not a citizen. What if you were to go to some other country and they checked you because they knew you werent a citizen. You might not be illegal because of a passport but you wouldnt want to be checke3d lik that. ITs just rude !

Moussa · Veteran Member

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

Moussa · Veteran Member

Heling is wrote:

I feel as if the first article dictated a bad idea and the second article simply no idea at all (just like liberals vs. conservatives). Like Napolitano, I think that a "virtual fence" would do little to solve the problem as there are other ways for illegal immigrants to infiltrate the state. However, like Brewer, I also believe that the rising number of illegal immigrants is a frightening revelation that should be addressed, although perhaps not in such a radical way.

Racial profiling has its benefits, but it would require enormous efforts to check the millions of people living in Arizona. Actually, all of the 'solutions' that they proposed seem impractical. It upsets me that they spend so much time and effort debating on the logistics of an awful idea, a 'bridge to no where' if you will. :D

what do you think should be done?

Rjnetinho · Member

In all honesty, privacy is soemthing that should not be tampered with, although the rising number of immigrants in the u.s. is alarming. The issue should be addressed, but in a much less radical way. passing this bill could, in retrospect, be a very risky and ineffective way of preventing immigration. Other, more elaborate avenues can be taken in order to reach this goal.

Sarah Labelle · Veteran Member

jordan coe wrote:

i agree with the bill because the people are here ileagly and we dont know if they were murders or drug runners and if they come here leagly its fine but ileagly it isnt u think other country would like americans comining in there ilegaly this problem has to be fixed

But if they are here legally they could still be selling drugs. Just because they are legal shouldn't give them that right. I think that people who cause problems in the community should be checked, but not just anyone.

-- Edited by Sarah Labelle on Tuesday 30th of March 2010 10:40:33 AM

Sarah Labelle · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

I agree that people who violate laws should be allowed to be checked for citizenship.

Moussa · Veteran Member

Nay wrote:

my thoughts on this issue that they have no right be able to go up to anyone that hasnt commited a crime. racial profiling is a horrible thing that plagues america today since this country has very sick obession with illgeal immigration. but that just my thoughts on this

They committed a crime by entering illegally. We are a nation of laws, not a nation full of hollagins, and where thuggery and hoodrats can run around breakin the law!

Nay · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

excuse me,!!!!!!!! moussa. just because they think they are illegal, doesnt give them the right to racial profile and attack people just walking down the street and stop them just because they think they are illegal.

Nay · Veteran Member

Vi wrote:

No, I do not think that the state should be able to take people and make them show their ID just because they think they are immigrants because of the privacy issue. They have rights and we never know if the person is actually an immigrant or not. The police will obviously use stereotypes against people and pull them off the streets just based off looks. That kind of situation is not fair at all and shouldn't be approved. Racism and stereotypes need to be decreased and this would just contribute to it.

Good ideas! (:

Moussa · Veteran Member

Nay wrote:

Moussa wrote:

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

excuse me,!!!!!!!! moussa. just because they think they are illegal, doesnt give them the right to racial profile and attack people just walking down the street and stop them just because they think they are illegal.

nobody was talkin about "attacking people" or anything. that's just a bunch of MUMBO JUMBO.

we aren't saying they check ANYONE, cops check the citizenship of people they deal with like if they pull someone over. part of the process would be checking their citizenship, like their drivers license...etc. if you wanna work, you prove you are here legally. end of story.

GET AT ME! get on my level~!!

Heling is · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Heling is wrote:

I feel as if the first article dictated a bad idea and the second article simply no idea at all (just like liberals vs. conservatives). Like Napolitano, I think that a "virtual fence" would do little to solve the problem as there are other ways for illegal immigrants to infiltrate the state. However, like Brewer, I also believe that the rising number of illegal immigrants is a frightening revelation that should be addressed, although perhaps not in such a radical way.

Racial profiling has its benefits, but it would require enormous efforts to check the millions of people living in Arizona. Actually, all of the 'solutions' that they proposed seem impractical. It upsets me that they spend so much time and effort debating on the logistics of an awful idea, a 'bridge to no where' if you will. :D

what do you think should be done?

I think that there is no solution to this problem in the immediate future.
Even if there were, America would not be able to manage it alone. It would take immense amounts of cooperation from the world leaders that are involved in this issue.

Zachary W · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Nay wrote:

Moussa wrote:

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

excuse me,!!!!!!!! moussa. just because they think they are illegal, doesnt give them the right to racial profile and attack people just walking down the street and stop them just because they think they are illegal.

nobody was talkin about "attacking people" or anything. that's just a bunch of MUMBO JUMBO.

we aren't saying they check ANYONE, cops check the citizenship of people they deal with like if they pull someone over. part of the process would be checking their citizenship, like their drivers license...etc. if you wanna work, you prove you are here legally. end of story.

GET AT ME! get on my level~!!

Actually it reads as though police officers can question anyone even if they aren't in trouble already.

Nay · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Nay wrote:

Moussa wrote:

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

excuse me,!!!!!!!! moussa. just because they think they are illegal, doesnt give them the right to racial profile and attack people just walking down the street and stop them just because they think they are illegal.

nobody was talkin about "attacking people" or anything. that's just a bunch of MUMBO JUMBO.

we aren't saying they check ANYONE, cops check the citizenship of people they deal with like if they pull someone over. part of the process would be checking their citizenship, like their drivers license...etc. if you wanna work, you prove you are here legally. end of story.

GET AT ME! get on my level~!!

then maybe the goverment should step their game up and get on that job of taking care of that. but until then let them make that money

hsalk18 · Member

I think it is completely wrong that people would have to show their ID because it is completely violating and discriminatory. You don't know if someone is here illegally or not and there is really no good way with checking that.

montille25 · Veteran Member

I believe the bill should be change a little because i dont think they can reconize all the illegal immagrants in the state, because the police are just going to pick on the Mexicans because they are the most common immigrant in the country and that is going to start problems and the Mexicans are going to be saying that is racial profiling. With some changes in the bill, it can be perfected.

Moussa · Veteran Member

then maybe the goverment should step their game up and get on that job of taking care of that. but until then let them make that money

You are right. The gov needs to enforce the border better. take out anyone that tries to break the law!

If someone murdered 10 years ago, they still have to pay the time. Same with breaking in the country! they gotta serve the time!

:D I run NY

Glorieeeee · Member

montille25 wrote:

I believe the bill should be change a little because i dont think they can reconize all the illegal immagrants in the state, because the police are just going to pick on the Mexicans because they are the most common immigrant in the country and that is going to start problems and the Mexicans are going to be saying that is racial profiling. With some changes in the bill, it can be perfected.

you GO max (: goood statement.

Nay · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

then maybe the goverment should step their game up and get on that job of taking care of that. but until then let them make that money

You are right. The gov needs to enforce the border better. take out anyone that tries to break the law!

If someone murdered 10 years ago, they still have to pay the time. Same with breaking in the country! they gotta serve the time!

:D I run NY

no one is breaking in. basically their here just to support their familys. they should have the right to do. if the immagration process wasnt SOOOO LONG then maybe peopole would be coming in legally. tuhhhhhh holla @ me. (;

BiancaDee925 · Veteran Member

I understand that the government wants a bill to be passed in order to control their rising illegal immigrant population, but they do not have the right to go up to some random person and assume that they are an illegal immigrant. It’s a violation of privacy. Racial profiling isn’t 100% accurate. It’s impossible to check every single person to see whether they are a U.S. citizen or not. There should be a practical and logical way in order to solve this problem.

Dokolski · Member

I believe while this law is harsh based just on how people look, but if the person has commited a crime they should be punished. no exceptions. and by them coming in without their "permission slips" they are commiting crimes.

Moussa · Veteran Member

Nay wrote:

no one is breaking in. basically their here just to support their familys. they should have the right to do. if the immagration process wasnt SOOOO LONG then maybe peopole would be coming in legally. tuhhhhhh holla @ me. (;

by coming and 'supporting" their families, they are destroying mine. my parents waited 12 years to be allowed here! they can wait their own darn turn!\

I get Money!

Moussa · Veteran Member

Zachary W wrote:
Actually it reads as though police officers can question anyone even if they aren't in trouble already.

THEY ARE MIS REPRESENTING THE LAW!!!!! it is much better!

Nay · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Nay wrote:

no one is breaking in. basically their here just to support their familys. they should have the right to do. if the immagration process wasnt SOOOO LONG then maybe peopole would be coming in legally. tuhhhhhh holla @ me. (;

by coming and 'supporting" their families, they are destroying mine. my parents waited 12 years to be allowed here! they can wait their own darn turn!\

I get Money!

understandable, respect to the parents. but my thought is that is way to long to wait to get into this country. where its people are so quick to attack immagrants

montille25 · Veteran Member

Heling is wrote:

I feel as if the first article dictated a bad idea and the second article simply no idea at all (just like liberals vs. conservatives). Like Napolitano, I think that a "virtual fence" would do little to solve the problem as there are other ways for illegal immigrants to infiltrate the state. However, like Brewer, I also believe that the rising number of illegal immigrants is a frightening revelation that should be addressed, although perhaps not in such a radical way.

Racial profiling has its benefits, but it would require enormous efforts to check the millions of people living in Arizona. Actually, all of the 'solutions' that they proposed seem impractical. It upsets me that they spend so much time and effort debating on the logistics of an awful idea, a 'bridge to no where' if you will. :D

can you explain some of the benefits of 'racial profiling "

Dokolski · Member

hsalk18 wrote:

I think it is completely wrong that people would have to show their ID because it is completely violating and discriminatory. You don't know if someone is here illegally or not and there is really no good way with checking that.

when they apply for jobs... in which case when the employers should be arrested too. there should be some way to filter the wrong doers out!

Moussa · Veteran Member

Nay wrote:

understandable, respect to the parents. but my thought is that is way to long to wait to get into this country. where its people are so quick to attack immagrants
you are right. they did take waaay to long to get in. maybe we should just stop EVERYONE from comin in, so they can stop complainin about how long it takes to come in.

DEUCES!

montille25 · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

how would you fix the system?

Nay · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Nay wrote:

understandable, respect to the parents. but my thought is that is way to long to wait to get into this country. where its people are so quick to attack immagrants
you are right. they did take waaay to long to get in. maybe we should just stop EVERYONE from comin in, so they can stop complainin about how long it takes to come in.

DEUCES!

Sooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! where they culture and new tech. will come from???????????

Moussa · Veteran Member

Heling is wrote:

Racial profiling has its benefits, but it would require enormous efforts to check the millions of people living in Arizona. Actually, all of the 'solutions' that they proposed seem impractical. It upsets me that they spend so much time and effort debating on the logistics of an awful idea, a 'bridge to no where' if you will. :D

Are you saying that the degredation, and humiliation of minority groups are a good thing?

furthermore, are you advocating for the institutionalization of racism again?!?!

Dokolski · Member

montille25 wrote:

Moussa wrote:

The proponents of the bill are completely correct when they say that the federal government has failed to do its job of enforcing immigration laws. It then becomes the responsibility of the state to enforce the laws when the federal government fails to. I have no problem with the idea that police will ask for citizenship status every time they check someone for speeding, or some other interaction. Of course, this wouldn’t allow them to check citizenship when simply talking to someone without a prior violation. The entire bill is based on the fact that those who break the law must be punished for it; with no exception. I don’t see why anyone would ever disapprove of that basis for a law. The fact is that the illegal immigrants are here illegally, and we should never reward illegal activities. I see nothing wrong with enforcement of the law.
No one is saying this is a perfect system, but it’s a start in the right direction where the federal government has failed.

how would you fix the system?

you take matters into your own hands...(the states) when all else fails you try something different, people are all for try the same tactics OVER AND OVER again, but nothing is changing... tell me how THAT FIXES THE SYSTEM?

Moussa · Veteran Member

Nay wrote:
Sooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! where they culture and new tech. will come from???????????

AMERICA!

I'm out!

Vi · Veteran Member

Nay wrote:

my thoughts on this issue that they have no right be able to go up to anyone that hasnt commited a crime. racial profiling is a horrible thing that plagues america today since this country has very sick obession with illgeal immigration. but that just my thoughts on this

my thoughts exactly jahnay, they aren't helping solve the problem of racial profiling at all, and they are to oblivious to the fact that this would only make things worse.

montille25 · Veteran Member

Dokolski wrote:

I believe while this law is harsh based just on how people look, but if the person has commited a crime they should be punished. no exceptions. and by them coming in without their "permission slips" they are commiting crimes.

If you had family, how came here illegaly, would you like this bill ? why or why not.

Nay · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Nay wrote:
Sooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! where they culture and new tech. will come from???????????

AMERICA!

I'm out!

so what your saying to stop doing business with companys like sony because thats a company in another land that sends people and tech. to this country to futher and also help the ecomony. -_______--

Dokolski · Member

montille25 wrote:

Dokolski wrote:

I believe while this law is harsh based just on how people look, but if the person has commited a crime they should be punished. no exceptions. and by them coming in without their "permission slips" they are commiting crimes.

If you had family, how came here illegaly, would you like this bill ? why or why not.

i dont know... but tell me how you would like it if you came here legally like the people we saw in the videos. those hardships that those families went through, and then there are people just cheating the system, that just (metaphorically) laugh and blow by all the rules.? not to fun now

Sarah Labelle · Veteran Member

montille25 wrote:

I believe the bill should be change a little because i dont think they can reconize all the illegal immagrants in the state, because the police are just going to pick on the Mexicans because they are the most common immigrant in the country and that is going to start problems and the Mexicans are going to be saying that is racial profiling. With some changes in the bill, it can be perfected.

What perameters should authorities use to choose the people they check the status of? If they choose based on looks it is racial profiling.

Zachary W · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Zachary W wrote:
Actually it reads as though police officers can question anyone even if they aren't in trouble already.

THEY ARE MIS REPRESENTING THE LAW!!!!! it is much better!

Is the law misrepresenting the law?

B. FOR ANY CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY

OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS

STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS

UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,

WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE

PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).

Moussa · Veteran Member

Nay wrote:
so what your saying to stop doing business with companys like sony because thats a company in another land that sends people and tech. to this country to futher and also help the ecomony. -_______--

YES. too many jobs are being outsourced to foriegn countries. we need to develop our own economies. but this is getting off point.

the point is, you break the law your a$$ gets arrested.

Young Money

montille25 · Veteran Member

Sarah Labelle wrote:

montille25 wrote:

I believe the bill should be change a little because i dont think they can reconize all the illegal immagrants in the state, because the police are just going to pick on the Mexicans because they are the most common immigrant in the country and that is going to start problems and the Mexicans are going to be saying that is racial profiling. With some changes in the bill, it can be perfected.

What perameters should authorities use to choose the people they check the status of? If they choose based on looks it is racial profiling.

Thats a hard question, because i dont care.

Nay · Veteran Member

Moussa wrote:

Nay wrote:
so what your saying to stop doing business with companys like sony because thats a company in another land that sends people and tech. to this country to futher and also help the ecomony. -_______--

YES. too many jobs are being outsourced to foriegn countries. we need to develop our own economies. but this is getting off point.

the point is, you break the law your a$$ gets arrested.

Young Money

okae im glad your alright with racial profiling, realyy hope your kids wont have to put up with that

engine of souls | forum 3

Arizona Law Promises to Be 'Toughest' on Illegal Immigration

Republicans Float Bill to Charge Illegal Immigrants with Trespassing -- in the State

By RUSSELL GOLDMAN

Napolitano rips GOP immigrant trespassing bill