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On chapter nine, I'm sort of shaky on the treaty of greenville and the important battles of the the war of 1812.

I'n ok on all of the Creek War stuff, Tecumseh, etc, if anyone has any questions on that.

Weaknesses:
Chapter 9:
1) Knitting the Nation Together; and Politics in Transition

Champter 10:
1) Economic Growth
2)Urban Life
3)Rural Communities

The Evangelical impulse was pretty much like a re-do of the great awakening. There were outdoor revivals, firey sermons, and it sort of dismissed the Calvinistic views of pre destination. This new Evangelical impulse led to the new belief that all men and women had souls, regardless of their race or lot in life, and that by living in a good and honest way you could garuntee yourself a spot in heaven. This idea promoted equality in all men, thus paving a way for abolitonists and missonaries looking to bring God to the "savage" indignoues tribes of America.

Chapter Nine
-The treaty of greeniville?
-The effects of the war of 1812?
-Formation of Tecumsehs confederacy

Chapter 10
- Urban Life
-Nontangible factors to economic growth.
-pre-emption act

WEAKNESSES:

Chapter Nine:
*The Evangelical Impulse
*The Specter of Sectionalism
*The Collapse of the Federalist-Jeffersonian Party System (I have an understanding of this section, but I'd like to see how it was interpreted from different perspectives =)

Chapter Ten:
*Brief explanation of Dartmouth College v. Woodward
*Palmer v. Mulligan 1805-property ownership=right to develop for business? How does that work?? Does that mean you can develop soley on that property or?? Can you invade the property of others? Was this even addressed?

Chapter 9 weaknesses ~

Courtney:
Formation of Tecumseh's confederacy...
:Tecumseh and his brother Tenskwatawa traveled through tribes warning them about the threat that the "white men" created and trying to convince the Native Americans to join their alliance. In northern Indiana the two brothers established 'headquarters'[which became a gathering place for the members of the alliance] in the town of Kithtippecanoe. From 1809-1811 Tecumseh utilized his rhetorical talent as he traveled through southern tribes persuading them to join his alliance. He was able to rack up over 1000 men willing to fight for their cultural pride and right for their lands not to be invaded.


hope this was helpful :)

Danny,

I was reading your weaknesses and I realized I didn't know much about Gabriel's revolt either. I didn't like the book's explanation so I went online. After reading this excerpt, I was able to understand the book a little better. Hope it does the same for you

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Gabriel (1776–October 10, 1800), today commonly if incorrectly known as Gabriel Prosser, was a literate enslaved blacksmith who planned and led a large slave rebellion in the Richmond area in the summer of 1800. Governor James Monroe and the state militia suppressed the rebellion. Gabriel and 26 other enslaved people who participated were hanged. In reaction, the Virginia and other legislatures passed restrictions on free blacks, as well as the education, movement and hiring out of the enslaved.

Ch. 9 1. A Nation of Regions
2. Indian-White Relations in the Early Republic
3. Knitting the Nation Together; and Politics in Transition


Ch. 10 : I need help with all of it.

felicity wrote:

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On chapter nine, I'm sort of shaky on the treaty of greenville and the important battles of the the war of 1812.

I'n ok on all of the Creek War stuff, Tecumseh, etc, if anyone has any questions on that.

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The Important battles of the War of 1812

              1)The burning of Washington (The Battle in which the British forces burned the White House to the ground.)

              2)Fort Mchenry  (Was the battle that inspired the Star Spangled Banner.)

              3)New Orleans (Might be important to know that this battle happened 2 weeks after the treaty was signed and that the Americans there were led by Andrew Jackson)

 These were proably the most important battles of the Southern theater of the war.
If you need a complete list then I would suggest http://www.warof1812.ca/battles.htm 

It has an entire list of Battles and a short summary for each of them.

-- Edited by Adam Goncalves on Monday 19th of October 2009 07:33:09 AM

~FOR CHAPTER 9~

~The treaty of greeniville
~effects of the war of 1812...economic etc.
~Formation of Tecumsehs confederacy

~For CHAPTER 10~

~ Urban Life
~Nontangible factors to economic growth.
~The Pre-Emption Act

Chapter 9- Shaky on Indian/White Realtions, War of 1812, and the after math.

Chapter 10- Urban life, and Economic Development

Arthur wrote:

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~FOR CHAPTER 9~

~The treaty of greeniville

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The Treaty of Greenville was signed after the Battle of Fallen Timbers. It divided the land for the Indians and the U.S and gave a line the white settlers were not allowed to cross even though the white settlers paid no attention to it. This treaty also gave the U.S the land of modern day Ohio and the U.S gave the Indians goods like blankets and tools ECT. 

Hope this helped.  

Weaknesses!

Chapter 9:
A Nation of Regions
Indian-White Relations in The Early Republic

Chapter 10:
Early Manufacturing
Urban Life
Rural Communities

-- Edited by Adam on Tuesday 20th of October 2009 06:58:10 AM

• [on cotton growth] Chapter nine pg 287 'The South'
• land lost much fertility causing southern farmers to  experiment with wheat and other grains
• they eventually turned to cotton as a staple crop
• from 1790-1820 the output of cotton had jumped from 3,135 bales to 334,378 bales
• in 1805 cotton accounted for 30% of the nation's agricultural exports/ by 1820 it was over 50%
• cotton was becoming a highly demanded crop
• Eli Whitney's cotton gin made it easy to seperate the sticky seeds of the short staple cotton from the fibers (slaves were able to clean 50 lbs of cotton instead of 1 per day!!!!)
• cotton raised southern land value, economic growth for southern white farmers, and many more job oportunities for slaves. They came from other places in and out of the country to work in the south.

Savanna,

A big part of "Knittin a Nation Together" is the Missouri ChriCompromise. Under the heading, "A Specter of Sectionalism," the Missouri Crisis was a major political ordeal in 1819-1820.
When Missouri applied for admission into the Union, it wanted to be admitted as a slave state. The expansion of slavery was a hot issue in the nation with out an easy solution. The Northwest Ordinance had allowed for the expansion of slavery south of the Ohio River and the prohibition of slavery to the north, without addressing the Louisiana territory where Missouri was. Senator Rufus West, from New York, wanted Missouri to prohibit slaves before entering the Union. The Southerners, however, wanted to maintain a balaence of free states and slave states within the Senate.
After a fierce congressional debate, Missouri gained entrance into the Union as a slave state, while Maine (formerly a part of Massachusetts) was admitted as a free state. These admissions are refered to as the Missouri Compromise (1820). Also, a line was drawn at 36degrees 309 latitude in the territory. South of this line, slavery would be allowed in the territories, north it would not.

theaa wrote:

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My weakest areas in chapter nine are:
2) Knitting the Nation Together

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Knitting the Nation together:
   The frontier regions were formerly very isolated from the rest of the country, with mail taking weeks to get there. The large distance between the Northern and Southern states also made travel and the flow of information difficult. However, advancements in transportation, such as mostly privately funded turnpikes and steamboats, brought people from far reaching places into contact with each other. The number of postal offices and newspapers experienced explosive growth, sating the increasingly educated population's desire for information. Though the price of sending mail fell by about half, it was still prohibitively high, at about 25 cents, for most working class people, who averaged a dollar of wage a day.
   America, as a mostly Protestant nation, was bound together by their belief in their God-blessed nation. Patriotic holidays also helped bring the people together, feeding to the growing sense of nationalism. Though different groups celebrated for different reasons, holidays like the Fourth of July were for specific events in national history. Everyone celebrated George Washington's birthday and the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Federalism was strengthened as well, as Supreme Court decisions cut down more and more on state power. McCullough vs Maryland determined that states could not tax the Federal bank, as it was part of the national government. Martin Hunter vs. Lesse determined that the Supreme Court's decisions could override state courts'.
   In contrast to nationalism, sectionalism was a major factor in American politics. The admission of Missouri as a state in 1819 sparked a debate on whether to allow it to be a free state or slave state. Northerners wanted to gradually abolish slavery and wanted it to be free, but Southerners were afraid of abolition and wanted to keep the balance of free states vs slave states, though it was already in favor of free states. The Missouri Compromise of 1820 allowed Missouri to be a slave state, but made Maine a free state and declared that all territories north of the 36'30 could not become slave states.

-- Edited by tony on Tuesday 20th of October 2009 07:12:12 AM

Arthur wrote :

~FOR CHAPTER 9~

~The treaty of greeniville
~effects of the war of 1812...economic etc.
~Formation of Tecumsehs confederacy

~For CHAPTER 10~

~ Urban Life
~Nontangible factors to economic growth.
~The Pre-Emption Act



Chapter 9

- The Treaty of Greenville was negotiated after the Battle of Fallen Timbers, in 1795, between Jackon/Continental Army and a coalition of Western Native Tribes. The Treaty was recognized as a final assurance that the Western Confederacy was eliminated.( - Tecumseh was one main Indian Leader of the Western Confederacy and probably the most famous... he died in the Battle of Fallen Timbers.)

- Effects of the War of 1812: *British Navy blockaded the Eastern coast, destroying cities and ruining crops consistantly. - August 14, 1814, British force torched the Capitol and the White House - as a result Congress and the President fled to Virginia temporarily. * Tension increased between Federlists and Jeffersonian-republicans. * In 1813 Lake Erie was won - Victory ended the threat of British invaion in Canada and weakened the British-Indian Alliancne. (*Jackson defeated the British in New Orleans.) * African American began to question rights more - 4,000 of them fought in the war, demonstrating patriotism and challenge of white racial stereotypes. *War also made Andrew Jackson a hero and established him as a major political figure.

-Formation of Tecumseh's Confederacy:
 Tecumseh was a shawnee leader often referred to as thier "Prophet". Tecumseh felt that the expansion of the white people threatened their political and cultural survival. With not much influence in the matter of The Natives keeping their land, Tecumseh united about 6 nations, of over several thousand, and led them into battle. Tecumseh planned to counter and resist American Expansion. Many Indian nations first became involved with the confederacy because of his younger brother's religious appeal.

To: Adam (the awesome one)

The Uban Life Chapter

Urbanization didn't happen all in one place. Older cites became larger (Boston, Philly, New York) and new cites formed (Cincinnati, Columbus and Chicago) as the population grew and as economic growth increased in cites.

There were three different types of cities: commercial centers, transportation hubs and mill towns. Boston, Philly and Baltimore, being coastal cites, become major commercial ports. The Erie Canal helped New York replace Philly as the most important city because the canal helped NY merchants gain control of most of the trade industry.

Other facts and stuff:

-Former artisans, or journeymen became a part of a new class of manual workers, dependent on wages

-Men worked more as most women returned to the domestic life as her children and husband went to work. Sometimes men had to stay home and help their wives

-The seperation of sexes had a finer line, men were finacially in charge and women were domestically in charge

-Early on children would work to help the family

-After the education reform period, children 5-19 were required to go to school for three monthes out of the year

I will post more later seeing how class is almost over.

Arthur- The Pre-emption Act approved by Congress in 1841 was a U.S. federal law created to grant permission of the sale of public lands and to pre-emption rights. In other words, it permitted government officials who were heads of the households, single, male citizens over the age of 21, or widows; to purchase 160 acres of land at an extremely reasonable price range. The deals were offered to these select few before they were opened up to the public people. States such as Alabama, Illinois, Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, Mississippi, Louisiana, Michigan, and Arkansas were paid 10% proceeds of the selling of the public land.

Chapter 9

Strategies of Survival: The Iroquois and Cherokee

The Collaspe of the Federalist-Jeffersonian Party System

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Chapter 10

Rural Communities

Middle-Class Life and Ideals

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*Brief explanation of Dartmouth College v. Woodward


Dartmouth v. Woodward - It was a 1819 Supreme Court case which dealt with the Contract Clause of the Constitution to private coporations. The New Hampshire legislature wanted to turn Dartmouth College, a private institution, into a public school by revising the school's charter and change the duties of the Trustee [a body of selected people who govern the school] and the selection process as well. The charter, which granted before the Revolutionary War in 1769 by the King of England [King George III], set up the structure of the school, its purpose and gave lands. When the New Hampshire Legislature attempted to modify the charter, the existing members of the Trustees filed a suit.

The question at hand was this: Under the US Constitution, did the NH legislature had the right to impair the charter?

The Trustee [represented by Darthmouth College alumni, Daniel Webster] argued that the NH legislature violated the Constitution according to Article 1, Section 10 [the Contract Clause], which states that no state has the right to pass any laws that impair a contract.

The Marshall Court, which had a history of minimizing state rights, ruled in favor of Webster. The Court stated that even though the contract was adopted during Britain's rule, it was still intact. The charter is still valid under the Constitution. The Court also stated that a state charter could not be modified unless both parties agreed [Derived from our History book.]

The decision of Dartmouth v. Woodward weakened states' control over private coporations, thus businesses are more secured. When businesses are secured, it encourages growth, attracts investors and employees.

Edit: Whoa, two explanations about this case. Is only one valid for twenty points?

-- Edited by Charlene on Wednesday 21st of October 2009 07:26:41 AM

Weaknesses:

Chapter9-
(1) The war of 1812
(2) the collapse of the Federalist-Jeffersonian party system
(3) women at the republican court

Chapter 10-
(1) working and living in a mill town
(2) factories on the frontier
(3) frontier families

To Vanessa Souza:

*The Treaty of Greenville was the result of an American Victory in the Battle of Fallen Timbers, an American Victory led by General "Mad Anthony" Wayne. Over 2,000 Indian Warriors were sent into this battle, and their defeat, forced them to surrender 2/3 of Ohio [mainly the southern portion]. This treaty opened the Old Northwest up to white settlers; however was a detrimental defeat to the Indian tribes in the region because this land cession in the Treaty of Greenville would lead to many more.

*Gabriel's Rebellion was a planned assault to take place on the city of Richmond, Virginia on the summer of 1800. The plan led by 24-year-old slave named Gabriel Prosser who had planned to arm 1,000 slaves, however his accomplices were also American Born Blacks, some free, who spoke English and had special skills. The rebels rallied around the cause for freedom; however their rebellion was quelled due to a vicious downpour, which delayed the attack. When it was all said and done, many free and enslaved blacks were arrested and 25 blacks including Prosser himself were hanged at the order of Virginia Governor James Monroe.

*Following the Treaty of Fort Stanwix in 1784, the Iroquois people were moved from their western land claims, which for many generations they had inhabited, to small Indian reservations. The Iroquois had faced population depletion mainly due to war, disease, and escape to Canada. On these reservations the Iroquois faced great poverty and distress again, and distress, and although they would attempt to drive Western settlers off what was their land, these attempts failed overall. In 1799, an Iroquois “Prophet” by the name of Handsome Lake, a former soldier who fought against the Americans in their war for independence from Great Britain and had recently had been dealing with serious issues such as depression and alcoholism. However, he was able to combine Caucasian Christian beliefs with those of the Iroquois in what he described as a new religion. He promoted temperance, peace, and land retention. This gave the Iroquois people a sense of hope and pride in the difficult, changing times for the Iroquois people.


To David:

*The Second Great Awakening took place between a period ranging from the 1790’s-1840’s. During this period, values such as equality for slaves and woman as well as temperance were taught. Also, those who participated in the “Camp Meetings” where such people as the “Holy Man” Lorenzo Dow would preach, people would be seen praying and singing enthusiastically, some even shaking. Many Americans were given hope during this period for salvation, for they were told that the actions they partook in on Earth would determine whether they received eternal salvation or not, which was a counter belief to predetermined destination or salvation taught in a religion such as Calvanism.

Kelly wrote: Chapter Ten

-Economic Growth
-Rural Communites
-Urban Life
-Early Manufacturing ; & a New England Textile town
 having trouble understanding chapter ten ,( mainly ) about the Economic Growth , comments and tips are gladly appreciated :]

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Chapter 10:

* Economic Growth:
- The U.S. made a major economic shift in moving more away from the reliance of agriculture and more toward industrial/technological source of growth.

  - Though the economy was progressing there were certain periods of "boom", which include: 1822-1834, mid 1840s-1850s, intertwined with harder times (1816-1821, 1837-1843) due to ecomonmic unstability.
   - Britain's industrial revolution affected material life greatly both in its own country and AMerica. Important developments were being made constantly- such as the steam engine, which eventually led to railroads and steamboats, thus revolutionizing transportation. The new steam-powered machinary also advanced the cloth production. Cotton need then soared and Britain began requiring more cotton from us (the South) and thus gauranteed coming decades of slavery.
   - Canal building in the 1820s and '30s dramatically improved transportation and communication. By 1840 3,000 miles of canals had been dug. Railroads also became popular because they were compatible with any weather. These new economic improvements provided farmers, merchants, and manufacturers with cheao and reliable access to distant markets and goods, also helped to encourage cictizens to settle on the frontier. These domestic innovations led to cheap, faster rates of mail, goods, and commercial information.
** Improved transportation stimulated agricultural expansion and regional specializtion - meaning that farmers of specific regions could focus on one crop, not having to worry about providing for themselves, because the crops they couldn;t grow could be easily bought close by - so money was used more as well, as crops and goods were traded more efficiently.

-- hope it helped